Ducks Unlimited Podcast

Matt Harrison: Hey everyone, Matt Harrison here with the Ducks Limited Podcast, and we are back at it with Kyle and Cam with Expanded Perspectives. Also to my right, Mr. Clay Baird, and we have some more stories coming your way. But we're putting a little bit of twist on it. for this episode. We had a line that people could call in and tell us their hunting stories, and we're gonna be able to play that live and listen to it and react to it. But before we get into that, we need our listeners and viewers to know that you can be a part of this kind of podcast. We open it up to the public. You could call in, share your stories, and we're about to play some of those. So Clay, Where can our listeners turn in these stories?

Clay Baird: Go to dux.org slash podcast, and you'll see at the top of the page a place where you can record your story. Give your name, maybe where you're from, and feel free to give a false name if you need to, and tell your story. It's a five-minute limit, so if it cuts you off, just press it again and tell the rest of your story.

Matt Harrison: Yep, and it's that simple. Super easy. So go to that link, send in your story. We plan on doing another one here in the near future with Kyle and Cam. So the more stories, the better. So we are super excited. We cannot wait to share with you all some of these stories. I'm going to have our podcast producer that you cannot see on screen right now, but Mr. Chris Isaac is going to kind of introduce the story. We're going to listen to it and give a live reaction. Mr. Chris Isaac.

Chris Isaac: So this first one is a short one from Kayler Hackler. Kayler, thanks for calling in and sharing your story.

Chris Isaac: So here we go. Thank you, Kaler.

Chris Isaac: Short and sweet. That's the story.

Kyle Philson: That's it. I mean, I feel his pain though, right? Like, everybody's done something like that in the morning. Dude, well, it's like I told you when I was sharing on the other show.

Clay Baird: We're talking about walking up on that pig. It looked like a little… like a little mud ball that jumped up. Why does nothing run till you're right on top of it, right? I was like, what is it? We looking like for pheasant? Like what is this? So again, with all the crazy stories we've discussed, imagine walking through the dark and stepping on that. As plain and simple as it is, you're still gonna scare the life out of it.

Matt Harrison: Oh yeah, and then you skunk on top of it.

Clay Baird: And then you get skunked on top of it.

Matt Harrison: That's terrible. Makes it even worse.

Clay Baird: It's the worst. Better than stepping on a skunk and getting rabbited.

Matt Harrison: Oh, that's true. Very, very true. That's why you can, it could always be worse.

Clay Baird: I don't know that I have ever… Stepped on a rabbit? Yeah, I don't think I have. Like, I've jumped them, you know, like when you're walking in like that.

Matt Harrison: Because normally rabbits kind of are skittish, you know, like if they see you coming, they're gone. I know that probably got that heart pumping because some rabbits can, whenever they're hurt or distressed, that sound can be a little scary.

Clay Baird: That's what they call yotes with. They bring the song dogs in with it. We got a story sent to us I mean, this guy didn't get skunked. Well, I guess you could say it was, this goes all the way back to like 1991, and what we were talking about at lunch, talking about Pennsylvania, right? Like being a wild spot again, like this took place in Pennsylvania, in Berks County, Pennsylvania. Two guys grouse hunting walked up on what one claims was a Bigfoot, like it charged the guy. So I've always wondered that when you hear about this, it's like if you surprise one. What happens?

Cam Hale: Yeah, what happens?

Clay Baird: You surprise a heifer or even an old bull or anything like that, they might run at you. There may be a bluff charge, same as bear, right, as they do this whole thing. That's what he's talking about, is they were out there, cold layer of snow, icy, they're strolling around in the whole deal, breaking ass to try to walk to where they're gonna go. Dude walks up on one, so this thing stands up, turns, he's got the shotgun. Now, the funny thing about this story, I say funny thing, we get several stories about it, is the dude points the gun at it. It's like 75 yards from him when it sees him. Busts out of the brush, runs up to within like 30 yards of him. The guy that's there throws the gun up and is like, you know, I'm gonna shoot it. And it almost recognizes what the gun is. So that's, we get a lot of those stories. Especially with Bigfoot. As you flash the gun and they're like, what the heck is that? That was the interaction. It never charged him. He never had to take a shot. He's back to the truck, tells his buddy. His buddy's like, big dude, right? Over six footer. He's like, come here. I want you to check these tracks out. So they track it and all this stuff and see all that. He's like, I want you to try to run these tracks. He's like, bro. He tried to run like three tracks and fell down. He's like, I can't. The guy's stride wasn't even big enough to get to the next footprint as he was running down through there. But that same thing, walked up on them. As we talked about walking up on the pig, well the guy drove up on it, but walking up on things. Think of that to stuff of all of us walking in and out of the stands. You're trying to be quiet, wind in your face. Think of the number of things you've walked up on. I'm surprised there's not more things like this walked up on. And then of course that's what brought the charge. Luckily the guy didn't get smoked, but I mean, yeah, could you imagine? Look, you're scared enough already. Now you got a Bigfoot just barreling down at you. And he pulls the gun up and the thing's like, ooh. Oh, they recognize the boomstick. Instantly. Instantly, right? So then again, it starts making you wonder, like, well, how intelligent are they? How do they know what they are? Right? Because we hear stories all the time, dudes shooting them and never find anything about it, right? They can kill a gorilla. Can't kill Bigfoot. You shoot him, you find the blood, you have no idea.

Kyle Philson: That's why I'm not convinced it's a physical thing. Exactly. Like, what I mean is… It seems almost like it's interdimensional or something from the Fey Realm or something. It's here, but then it's gone. Because you never find any bones. You do find tracks. Sometimes people say hair, but… Yeah, but there's tons of stories of hunters shooting them. And they know, they have a lifelong experience in the woods and shooting things, and they're like, no, it took off. I even found a blood trail, and then they just never find it.

Clay Baird: We talked to a couple of guys on the show years ago that had had a dogman encounter. and these two dudes were at the camp and actually this thing come into camp and they're like said like pressed through the trees like you're looking at cedars or pines and it just kind of pressed out and they said it was like a werewolf face seven foot tall come in there like that and the one dude pulled his pistol and just opened up on it Just, I mean, he said they're like 25 foot away from it. They're sitting at the campfire hanging out. This thing shows up and he just starts hammering, letting it fly and just mag dumping in this thing. It starts making contact. The thing runs off. They find blood. They look for it for a while and like, ooh, they wait. They don't even go to sleep, right? Daylight comes. They look for it. Never find anything. And those guys, like, we talked to them on air. We talked to them off air, the whole thing. you could legitly tell something happened. You know, it's hard to say, you weren't there, I have no idea, but why would two dudes make it up? And when they start telling the story, you can, I mean, you can tell something happened to them, bad, yeah. Like, it was just like when we were doing the stories with the guys, like, I quit hunting. After that, like, I'm not going back out there. I don't want to know what that is, like this whole deal. So I will take stepping on a rabbit any day. All day. All day. I'll even take getting skunked every now and again. I'm fine with it, as long as I don't walk up on that.

Kyle Philson: Well, and just like the dogman story you were just talking about, we always talk about, it depends on who's having the sighting, right? So some people have more credibility based on their job type and stuff. We had somebody ride into Ducks Unlimited, and they said that they worked as a patrol deputy in central Louisiana, and he said that they were going down a dark, rural road on the far edge of a parish one night when they saw something come out of the timber and get on the ditch, and it was on all fours. Now, he says, the closest things I can relate it to is a werewolf from the movie American Werewolf in Paris. He said this thing had long arms, long legs. It was close to the ground. It had big teeth. It was covered in hair. He said he couldn't see the skin underneath it. He said he looked up at him and he saw eyeshine. He never told nobody about it. And he said a week later, A fellow deputy was over visiting in the same area, and he said he saw the same thing. And he's like, but once I heard the other person see it, so it's not just me, now it's two patrol deputies, both seeing this thing crossing the field. And that's what you hear all the time, is they're like, I know it sounds crazy. But this is what I saw. I don't know what it was." And you just hear story after story after story of people experiencing the same thing. And I had no clue what they're… Is it a demon? Like, what is it? Is it a skinwalker? I mean, he says that in the area, Choctaw Indians… talk about skinwalkers, and he's wondering if that's what it was.

Clay Baird: The stakes are too high, right? For guys like that, you could lose your job. Yeah. Saying something like that. And so you don't hear these stories a lot. And when you do hear them, you gotta pay them a little more attention. Like the same as you, Doc, when you get into airline pilots, they start talking about some of the things that they've seen, right? Like, they can't tell you. Because, you know, then it might be a problem.

Matt Harrison: Mm-hmm.

Clay Baird: Yeah.

Matt Harrison: Well, now we got another story. Back to Chris. Chris?

Chris Isaac: Alright, we have one. This was kind of a neat one to get. This is from Mark Cottrell. Sorry if I'm pronouncing your name wrong. He lives in the UK. So this is a… Going international. Awesome. Yeah. This is cool.

Clay Baird: Thanks for listening.

Chris Isaac: Buckle in for this one. It gave me goosebumps while I was listening to it.

Clay Baird: Holy cow. What was the dude doing out there in the total darkness with a 2p shotgun under his jacket? Yeah. Right? In the middle of nowhere. In the middle of nowhere. And we don't know if he was even real. Yeah, that's right. Like, y'all didn't, nobody touched him. Nobody had any interaction physically with him. We don't even know. And you're like, you're just standing there, now he could have just been a local guy out there, just wanted to go scare the kids out of the pasture. But still, we got a story one time sent to us talking about, I want to say it was, was it military folks? I think it was in like. Sweden there was They were at like a radio tower in the middle of nowhere This guy was out there kind of like the story we've done before and the dude hears something and this woman Walks out of the woods. He's like there's nothing within miles. Wasn't she naked? No, she was dressed like in leather Yeah, right old school like leather almost like some sort of, not really armor, but like leather pants and like a shirt. It was just a crazy thing. It was insane. And it was like, the guy sees it, talks to her. She wasn't even talking. He's trying to carry on a conversation. She's just looking at him and he like turns around and then she's gone again. Like she just appeared for a little bit, talked to him and gone. He's like, it was a physical person. Like a time slip. Yeah. Just like, there's no reason for y'all to, for any of this to even be here. Like, look, we talk about crazy monsters and stuff, but the most unsettling is when you run into another human being. Yeah, by far. In the middle of nowhere. You want to talk about something dangerous. That's pretty dangerous, right? Another human being in the middle of the woods, all alone with a gun, and you're like… Where did you come from? That is a trouser-soiling predicament. Yes, exactly. I like how he said we were all on the same page. We just took off running. Let's go. Yeah, that's just that. We got to get out of a 12-gauge range. That's what we got to get out of. Yeah, because they got like day-states with them. And they have fear. Yeah, and he's only got two shots. Go! Outrun the young ones.

Matt Harrison: Man, that's crazy. The way that guy told the story, too, is awesome. Yes! First of all, look, it's the accent. The accent was killer.

Clay Baird: Yeah, it was the accent. If it's a documentary or something scary, I want an Englishman telling me. It just feels better that way.

Kyle Philson: I don't know what the guy looked like, but I pictured the guy looking like Bullet Tooth Tony when he's talking about, that's not a, that's a replica. That's not a knife.

Clay Baird: He pulls that big shotgun out, pieces it together. I'm like, uh-uh. I'd have been, the minute the gun came out, I'm like… Because he dodges bullets. But again, that's in the UK. You go to whippin' that out around here, you're like, oh that's cute. Check this out, you know, you're like, that's awesome.

Kyle Philson: I do remember the Rambo knife, I wanted one. It had like waterproof matches in the handle and it had like a compass on the bottom.

Clay Baird: It had fish hooks in it and weights, and then it had the two, it looked like key rings that went underneath it where you could take out and put your wire saw together. Cuttin' down trees. I had one. I did too. Everybody had one, I think. It wasn't a good one. It was like $10.

Cam Hale: The $40 one, yeah.

Chris Isaac: Yeah, it was nothing. This is a pretty cool hunting story that was sent to us too.

Kyle Philson: This took place in September 1999 in Indiana. And this hunter said he was walking through a wooded area when all of a sudden he started smelling the smell of burned ozone. If you know what that smells like, it's like a… sulfur-ish smell, and ozone is accompanied by strange sightings a lot of times in these stories. So he's smelling something weird, he's feeling kind of weird, and he says he goes into this valley and he saw three silver-clad humanoid figures around a dead deer carcass about 150 yards away. He said they were small, they looked like the size of like five-year-olds, and they were doing something to this deer. Now, he doesn't know if they killed the deer, or if they were like a cattle mutilation where they abduct them and just cut pieces off of them, or they were flying around and they were just interested. But he said after about 15 minutes, he said another being came out of this stainless steel-like craft, pointed in the witness's direction, like telling the other ones, hey, look. There's a guy over there, hurry up and get in. Somebody's looking. Go, go, go. He said they ran and all got back in the craft, and the thing took off, and he watched the whole thing with, like, his jaw on the ground, and was like, what did I just see? Intergalactic poaching. That's what it looked like.

Clay Baird: I thought it was a game warden. Right?

Kyle Philson: Even aliens got game wardens. They're like, we gotta go. And I used to watch, like, Unsolved Mysteries and shows like that, and I would always think about the cat ammunitions, like, this is nothing. Until it started happening around where we live. There was a couple sightings. This was, like, early 90s or late 80s. And there was a rancher out there and he lost like 13 head of cattle over a period of like three weeks. And he didn't really want to tell the story, but his wife was like, you know, tell them the whole story. Well, it turns out they'd been seeing strange lights in the sky for a couple of nights prior to this. Their family dog, They hadn't seen it in days. It's missing. And he would go out there and he'd find not just a dead cow, but they'd look like they'd been cut with lasers. There was no blood. They'd been completely removed the blood. There's no tracks. There's no hair, like the tongue would be cut off. And they found the same thing all 13 times that they found the cows dead. And he said there were strange black helicopters around. So he suspected it was like the military or something, or at least a secret branch. Because he never actually saw any UFOs or aliens.

Clay Baird: But the wildest part is when it stopped, it just stopped. It wasn't like it trailed off. It was like it did all of this, and then it never happened after a certain day. That was it. Never happened again.

Kyle Philson: Maybe they went vegan. I mean, and that's the thing. Very possible. If it was the military, well, the military could raise their own cows. So why would they steal somebody else's cows to perform a test on it? It doesn't make any sense.

Clay Baird: Well, the military was around, I assume, like the black helicopters were around because they're investigating. What was happening?

Kyle Philson: What flew in? Why do they leave the cow there if they're aliens? Why don't they just put it on the ship and get out of there? Why do they bring it back?

Clay Baird: Maybe they don't have enough fuel. It's all that added weight. Right? Just like you do when you get on a plane. You're like, hey, we can't have any carry-ons. You can't have any cows on here. Sorry. I'll leave that here. I had to throw away peanut butter when I came back from North Carolina one time. Anti-gravity propulsion system's not gonna work. And everybody who doesn't like a rib eye. Fact. Right? I mean, who doesn't? That's a good point. That's a good point. Space ribeyes. What do you got for me?

Chris Isaac: Here we go. Space ribeyes. All right. We had a call in from Chris Harvey. He actually left us a couple stories. Thank you, Chris. All right. Thanks, Chris. Thank you. Both Chris's. Thank you. You're welcome. We're going to start with this one here.

Chris Isaac: Need a thermoscope.

Clay Baird: Yeah.

Chris Isaac: Right, it reminds you of that.

Clay Baird: That's the first thing I think of every time now. Thermoscope. When you hear those voices in the dark, you're like, you don't want to know what those are. Yeah, link in the show notes to buy a thermoscope. Yeah, no, we need sponsorship. First of all, Potato Hill killer.

Cam Hale: Right? Yeah, never heard of that.

Clay Baird: First of all, missed opportunity here. Mr. Potato Hill. Now you're talking. Yeah. That sounds like a good drink, too. Yeah. You like vodka? Potato juice? No? Nothing? Okay. Look, I got a story. It has nothing to do with this. This is just one I've wanted to share with you guys for a while. And I had forgotten about it last time. Couldn't squeeze it in on the last, this one. I've got to tell you this. One of the main reasons I got to tell you is because it's… It's almost, like even out of all the stories we cover, completely unbelievable. I mean, it really is one of those ones where you're like, what are you talking about? It took place in 2022 with a bow hunter, just east, the fella lives just east of Little Rock, Arkansas, and he was making his way to Sebastian County. All right, so he's really not far from where we're at right now. It's not a long ways. He hunts on a man's place. Guy lets him hunt on this place, the whole thing, all this stuff. He wasn't hunting at the time. He was out hiking, just doing some scouting, walking around. Weather was great. He's like, look, I didn't take my phone. I didn't take a gun. I didn't take anything. I just got a little water, going out for a stroll, right? I mean, we don't all go packing 24-7 when you go into the woods. Although now, maybe you should when you start thinking about hearing stuff like this. So, he gets to the place, to this camp, he gets him some coffee, all this stuff, hangs out, the days he said it rained a few days prior, like three days it rained, and then it turns off, the weather is beautiful, it's clear, it's in the 60s, he's like, it's amazing. But he goes, what he enjoyed the most was, all the leaf litter was wet. He made no noise. So you can walk through there, there's no sound. He's like, man, I'm gonna get to walk up and see some pretty cool stuff. So he's cruising along this ridge, looking into this, it's all these rocks, rolling down this ridge, there's a tree line, and he said he sees a deer laying down, and at first he thought it was crawling. He's like, this deer looks like it's scooting along the ground, but its legs aren't moving. As he makes his way up to it, he's like, he's about 40 foot away. He's like, oh, this deer's injured. That's why it's down there like that. Then he says it starts sliding away from him. As he moves up on it, what he realizes he's seeing, is a centipede. He thought it was a huge snake at first.

Matt Harrison: Do what?

Clay Baird: It's a centipede. He said, now look. He thought it was a deer and it was a centipede? No, the deer's there. Oh. The centipede has the deer body.

Kyle Philson: Uh, I gotcha.

Clay Baird: He said this thing is, he gets right up on it. He goes, I walk right up on this thing so I can get a perfect look. He said the centipede's body is as big around as a stovepipe. And it's roughly eight to ten feet long. And it's bitten into this deer carcass and dragging it. It's like on it. And it's just, he said, defeat everything. He goes, the difference is like the segments of the centipede are big. Like it's big segmented centipede. He said, this thing goes up into those rocks in a big old hole and goes in and pulls that deer down in that thing. And that was it. That's the whole deal. He said, I watched it do the whole thing. He said, I bounced. He said, I went back, got to the farmhouse. He said, I didn't tell the farmer anything. None of it. He said, I didn't go back for a while, like a year or so. And then he goes, when I finally go back, I go back in there and there's no sign of any of that stuff. Like there's where the hole was. He's like, you could tell that it looked like it might've used to have been like a den. And it's kind of filled in after the time, the whole deal. But he was like, I've never, seen anything after that. He goes, I've wanted to go back in there, but I'm just leery going back to that exact spot.

Matt Harrison: Centipedes and snakes freaked me out. How is that? Yeah, especially giant ones.

Clay Baird: Eight to ten feet. Look. How many legs did it have?

Matt Harrison: That would freak me out.

Clay Baird: I can't wrap my head around it because there's only two things that it can be. It's either a complete and total lie or it's 100% real and somehow there's an 8 to 10 foot centipede not far from where, well, a few years between here and Little Rock. Some prehistoric leftover, some artifact or something. So let me ask you this, which do you think would be harder for you to like wrap your head around? If you saw, I don't know, Bigfoot or Dogman? Or if you were like, is that a giant centipede? For me, it would almost be a centipede. Because doing this long enough, you can kind of dispel and be like, man, maybe it was a Bigfoot. Awesome. I got a chance to see something that I can't explain. But when you see the centipede, you're like, I know those things are real, and I know they're not supposed to be Godzilla-sized centipedes running around out here. You just be hanging out, sitting on the ground. Imagine turkey hunting, right? And this thing comes rolling up. You're like, what is that, a bunch of drill stem? Nah, surprise, it's a giant centipede.

Kyle Philson: But you've had tales of, like, dinosaurs being seen. Like, what was the one you did where you had somebody saw, like, little raptors running on the street in front of them? It was like Arizona?

Clay Baird: Yeah, there was a bunch in Arizona. There was a bunch in Colorado where guys had seen them. One dude was actually whitewater river rafting. Like, I remember he was, like, not, you know, by himself, but it wasn't, like, major whitewater. He's just going down the river. and he saw them come down to water, and he said they looked like velociraptors, but they were probably two foot tall. He's like, three of them come running down out of the mountains, and he's like, what is that? Watch too much Jurassic Park. What is there little tiny dinosaurs doing down here? It doesn't make any sense. And there's a lot of stories of those. So you know they existed, but like, how's that here? Again, it starts making you think about time slips. It starts making you think about is there overlapping, you know, some sort of multiverse, and these things are from millions of years later, and it's just like a stack of records, and it just somehow they lined up, and you could see it, and it was physically on this side for a little bit before. I'm like, who knows? Because it's either, like we said, a complete and total farce, or there's something going on. And how do you study one-off things? You can't.

Kyle Philson: Yeah, some of my favorite stories are the Glimmer Man sightings.

null: 100%.

Kyle Philson: Where these people see what looks like a person, or at least person-shaped thing, but it's completely see-through, like it's camouflaged like a ghost. And there's dozens and dozens of these stories. I mean, there was one that was not too long ago. Guy said that in 1993 or 94, he was living in a small town in Tennessee called Antioch. I don't know where that is, but that's where this took place. He said he was out in a park, He was walking his dog, you know, back then you weren't looking at your cell phone, but he was just, you know, nature gazing, and all of a sudden something caught his eye, and he sees this clear-looking man thing standing in the trees. And then he said it starts running from tree to tree, and it's like that movie Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, or whatever, where they're like, He's like, the trees aren't, the sapling limbs and stuff aren't strong enough to hold a full-grown man, but yet that's what it looks like. And you're like, well, that's a crazy story too. You start looking into it, and we've probably received 45 to 55 stories where it's basically the same thing. And so people are like, is that a time traveler? Like you can pay some money and go back in time if you want to see what Egypt looks like, but you're going to be like a clear person. Is it an extraterrestrial that's trying to disguise itself like in the movie? Is it a ghost? Like, what is it? But it's always, like, human-shaped, and they usually see it outside. Very rare. There's only been, like, two sightings of it indoors, I think. And there have been enough sightings that it has a name. Glimmer Man. That's right. Yeah. It's often described like Predator. Yes. You've seen the movie Predator, that's what they describe it as. And they said it's, like, shimmering. Some people say it looks like cellophane. Some people say, like, you can't see in it, but you can see the outline. Like, if you're not paying attention, you wouldn't even see it.

Clay Baird: If it wasn't moving, and you were just driving down the road, riding your bike, you would never know. You would just be like, nothing changed.

Kyle Philson: The cloak of invisibility. Yes. Well, and there was a scientist named J. Allen Hynek, and he studied UFOs. And when he first started studying, he wasn't into it. But the more and more cases he studied, he began to turn and began to 100% believe what people were saying. Well, he has a son named Joel Hynek, and Joel Hynek was the one that did the design for the cloaked predator in the Predator movie. So it's always made me think, like, did his dad tell him something?

Clay Baird: Did they find something out?

Kyle Philson: Oh yeah, we see him, but they camouflaged themselves and we can't stop them. So if you ever see that, you're like, no, that's a demon or that's an extraterrestrial. I don't know, wild. I want that camo pattern, though.

Clay Baird: Yeah, for real. Bro, you know how great that would be? It'd be unbelievable. Oh, sign me up for invisibility.

Kyle Philson: Some people also blame, like you were mentioning in the last episode, uh, like the David Pilatus stuff. People were saying that the Glimmer Man's responsible for it. But they say the same thing with Sasquatch is responsible for it. I mean, everybody's got their own ideas. But we know for sure that there are… Scary amount of people that go missing in the woods and natural parks and stuff. Oh, yeah, and nobody knows Nobody knows what happened.

Clay Baird: Yeah. Yeah, and he has he has a whole checklist of things that line up weather events You know granite fields. Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff that line up there You're like these are checking all the boxes here. Yeah. Yeah, y'all need to check out all of that stuff everybody paying attention and listening to this and get your own list so that way if you know if you're in the one of those areas be like Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and turn around and get out of here I got three out of five. I gotta go. I'm not gonna, I don't want to go missing bingo. I'm not playing that. I'm like, nope, I'm gone. He actually has advice. He'll tell you, if I recall correctly, that if you feel something like that is going, like might be going on, you just stay where you are. Go, I think he says like go back to back and just like sit there. Don't move. Don't do anything. Just sit there until whatever this feeling is is over. We had a story get sent to us one time and you'll remember this about the fire and the fire lookout where those people that was walking and just on a hike up in the mountains. I don't remember if it was in Colorado or Montana on this hike by himself just cruising along and all of a sudden I don't, they don't hear anything. There's no noise. It's the Oz effect, right, where it's just total silence. They start smelling smoke. They start seeing like a fire. It looks like an old, like there was a forest fire. They see like an old, like a lookout tower. They have some other things and they end up like moving away from it and then all of a sudden, boom, they can hear again. Right? Like, oh, the sound came back. It all came back. There's no smoke. There's no fire. They go to talk about it. They're like, there's no fire out there. Like, you know, there's like, I don't even know if there is a lookout tower in that area. Like, it was one of those deals to where you like, they like, blend over into something that maybe it was happening in another universe. Maybe it was happening, whatever. But they were like, dude, it just went totally silent. And you get, we get piles of stories about the Oz Effect. of it just like, nobody hears it. It's no noise, no anything.

Matt Harrison: Nathan had that experience.

Clay Baird: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Everything quiets down. No crickets, no birds, nothing. Now we used to joke about it, you know, when it happens to you in the woods, it never really goes totally quiet, but you're like, usually, like if you're in a stand or whatnot, it's a predator. Usually there's a predator in the woods and you can be like, okay, there's a bobcat or a coyote. Everything, yeah, they don't want to alert it. This is a different type of quiet. This is like, they don't hear the planes. They don't hear wind. You don't hear the rustling of the leaves. Like you can look and leaves are moving. You don't hear anything. It's just like everything around you is void of sound. It's the crossover. It's that almost like a wall or a film you go through. That's why Pilates is like, sit still. Sit down and wait.

Kyle Philson: Put an air tag in your pocket. If somebody can find you. And he does mention though, don't go in the woods unless you're armed. He does mention like, if you're gonna go somewhere, make sure you tell somebody where you're going. So if you don't return, you know, they at least have somewhere to start looking.

Matt Harrison: Well I think Chris has a couple more stories for us. We do. This is from the same guy.

Chris Isaac: Same guy. Chris Harvey.

Matt Harrison: All right.

Chris Isaac: Chris full of stories. Killing it. Here we go. Yeah, dude.

Clay Baird: Pushing down a perfectly good tree. I don't know enough about Bear, but I don't know that Bears sound like that.

Kyle Philson: I don't know what they sound like, but I'd never heard of a story of them sounding like human-like. No, not one bit.

Clay Baird: I sure would have told myself it was a bear until I got out of there.

Kyle Philson: I'd have done the exact same thing.

Cam Hale: That's what I would do, yeah. I'm just letting any of y'all know at this table, if any of that happens to any of us, lie to me. Tell me y'all know it sounds like a bear that we get just like that. We're about 30 minutes away, he's like, oh by the way, I just made that up, I have no idea what that was, I just want to get out of there. Like I'm okay with that, lie to me. Like I don't want to know either. Here's what's funny though, it's, and I can't say a ton of them, but we've gotten a lot of reports too of, I don't know if it's the elk season itself or it's just like the mountain strain of possible Bigfoot or what it is, where some, they're like more aggressive. Like, it's like you stumble into the wrong area. And they're more, or whatever it is, seems to be like it's aggravated that you're there. Because you don't get it in like a lot of state parks where you see it or guys go, like, you don't get that. But then you get up in these mountains where there's a lot of elk hunting, maybe the Bigfoot or whatever these things are like them too. But I mean like, because we've gotten some where we had a story, and this happened a while back, where the guy went missing. Remember they found that the two guys were out from long ago and then the dude found his buddy's body and it was like beaten to death. And all this, yeah. And he was like, I don't know what happened to this guy, right? Like you get, and it was even more prevalent way back in the day. Probably, I don't know why, you know, it's always the stories from way back in the day. But you get the stories just like this, where it comes into like, we were in the mountains and these things were, Overly aggressive. What's the story with them throwing the rocks at the cabin? Well, it's cuz this yeah, that's a famous story.

Kyle Philson: I don't remember Washington and basically these guys were hunting and They saw a Sasquatch and they shot it and I don't know if they didn't couldn't track it or they couldn't find a river So they went back to their cabin that night. Well that night They were attacked by like four or five of them. And they were, you know, they awoke to big rocks being thrown, crashing through the roof and through the windows. And they believed that they were, you know, trying to get revenge and get them out of there. So the next day they just left and they never went back to that cabin. But you know, this took place, I think, like in the 20s or something. Yeah. Before you even knew what they were. Of them being very territorial. And what's odd is if you look at a lot of the maps of like the Pacific Northwest, a lot of the names of canyons and mountains and stuff are all named like ape or monkey or… Devil. Devil.

Clay Baird: But there's a lot of weird, the way they named things like that. It's almost like they knew it was there. They name it so everybody else is aware of the whole thing. Like, look, who knows? Like, what are they? Because I still go day to day, every day. You believe in it? Not today. Like, there's no way it's real. And then the next day you hear one of these stories, I'm like, man, it might be real. Like, it really might be real. Like, I don't know because I, like I always say, I've never had an encounter. I've never had anything like that happen to make me go, oh yeah, 100%. But I've set this close to people that have given up hunting completely because of things. And you're like, yeah. I always ask everybody, what would it take to make you stop? Look at what you do, look at this whole place. What would it take to make you go, I'm not only a night of arrow hunting, I'm never fishing, I'm never hiking, I'm never going in the woods again. Like, I don't know what it would take to scare me, right? Probably one more of these episodes. Next Halloween episode, and then I'm done after that. I'm never leaving the house again. Because I think about it when I get these stories, like, he's laughing, everything's great, you know, like, we don't know what it was, you know, and the whole deal. What kind of encounter and with what thing would it take to pull the plug?

Matt Harrison: I think it would have to be, for me, something that I truly, truly feared my life. Like, you know what I mean? To the point to where I'm like, I'm never even gonna chance that happening again. Because like you said, especially y'all are hunters, I'm a hunter. You know, you've been scared. You've either jumped a deer, ran into a group of hogs, or… you know, had a turkey fly out of the tree above you and scare the ever-living mess out of you. You know, we've all had that. And, of course, that's a heart race, but, like, I think it would have to be something, like, to make me say, I'm not gonna go back in the woods to ever hunt again. It would have to be something for me to, like, where I truly was like, I could've lost my life today.

Clay Baird: The guy on the tower.

Matt Harrison: Yeah. I'm like, bro, that thing was coming for him. Yeah.

Kyle Philson: Yeah. I don't think I'd be scared of Bigfoot. It doesn't sound scary to me. Most of the accounts, people just see them and are just curious. So I'm not scared of that. But if I saw some emanciated man, crawling around on the ground, trying to sit down.

Matt Harrison: As fast as a white tail. Yeah, nah, I don't want no part of that. Chasing something that jumped a fence.

Clay Baird: Trying to use my voice and doing all this.

Matt Harrison: If you're wondering what we're talking about, if you skipped our last episode, one of the stories that we talked about is pretty interesting.

Clay Baird: Pause it, go back and listen, then jump back over here.

Matt Harrison: Yeah, yeah.

Clay Baird: Be easier that way. Or, if you like sleeping soundly, don't. It's that simple. If you want to continue to go hunting peacefully. Yeah.

Matt Harrison: If you don't want to turn your brain into a haunted house while you're in your stand. You know what's crazy too? Tomorrow is opening day of turkey season for me and I'm gonna be walking in the woods. Thinking about these stories.

Clay Baird: Brother have a good look with that. You're hearing wood knocks. I'm gonna text you in the morning.

Matt Harrison: Yeah, be like, Matt, did you wake up? No, Cam, I slept in. I waited until the sun came up. Hey, we actually do have that bad weather coming in, so, oh, can't go. Yeah, shucks.

Clay Baird: You know, it's funny, you're talking about the names of places and how they may be relevant to Bigfoot, it's ape or whatever, but we got a lot of places in the South called Booger Hollow. You know, whatever. Yeah, and Booger's a big name for Bigfoot. Right, Wooly Booger, yeah. Look at the names of a lot of the places through Arkansas. Yeah. When you get up into those mountainous areas, like, you're like, wait a second. What? Hold up. Yeah, I'm like, hang on now. What do y'all know? Yeah, when I was a kid and I passed in, I'd be like, Booger. Yeah. But now you're like, oh, that's what they called him. Yeah. We're talking about Sasquatch here. It's crazy, right? Because you feel like a crazy person even thinking like that. But then over and over, and like I said, you sit across from people, and I mean, the people that are, there's some that are listening and watching now, and just like, this isn't possible, you guys are idiots, this whole thing. I'm like, dude, I understand how ridiculous it sounds, but I have sat across the table from multiple individuals that have given up the love of their life because of something they encountered in the woods. I can't think of anything that would make me stop. And that's what I always put, everybody that's listening, all the men that are listening, macho guys, ego, they got all this stuff like, I'm not gonna stop, right? Like nothing's gonna scare me out of it. You got to imagine that person felt the same way you do. And something scared them out of it. What could it be? I don't want to see that. Man, I don't want to. I'm out. I don't want to. I love just hanging out in the woods. I don't need to know there's scary stuff out there. This public service announcement from Cam Hale. That's right. Carry a flashlight and a handgun. And an air tag. Yeah, so they can find your corpse.

Matt Harrison: Do we have any more stories to play, Chris or Cam? You got another one?

Clay Baird: We got one more from… Let's do it.

Matt Harrison: Yeah, lay it on us. Chris is… Maybe we should have just had him as a guest.

Clay Baird: You might want to think, Chris. You might want to be careful. It's like these things are drawn to you, man. Look out.

null: Okay. Thank you.

Cam Hale: Hmm.

Chris Isaac: And I'm, no.

Clay Baird: No. Dude, that, the wood knock stuff, that stuff creeps me out too.

Kyle Philson: Yeah, one of my favorite stories is this people had a small Bigfoot research group and they would go out into this area and start doing tree knocks. And they did that for months. And then one day, they heard that something replied back. And they're like, did you get that? Holy cow, let's go back and tell everybody we heard it and bring some more recording equipment. They come back the next weekend, same deal. They're tree knocking, something's tree knocking back. They're like, man, we're really getting somewhere. Turns out it was another group of Bigfooters that they were tree knocking back and forth to one another. It was all just people. There's nothing in there.

Clay Baird: Even if it's people, it's still kind of creepy. Yeah, very creepy.

Matt Harrison: Who are these people?

null: 100%.

Matt Harrison: I mean, could you imagine just being out there? Yeah, that's just unsettling.

null: 100%.

Clay Baird: It's just like elk hunters bugling each other, right? Yeah, you've heard the same thing, yeah. You turn up, you're like, oh, hey, I called my buddy up. Like, imagine thinking that you're out there with the Bigfoot, and you're just, bro, your emotions, and then you're like, oh, never mind. Look, it's Clay over there. He's talking back to me.

Matt Harrison: He's got a 2x4 beating the tree over there. Yeah.

null: Yeah.

Matt Harrison: Well, thank you all so much for sending in your stories. We cannot thank you enough. You made this episode us able to do it. I mean, we couldn't have done it without you. You made it possible. Kyle and Cam, thank you so much for taking the time. These two traveled from Texas just to be with us here in studio to bring you these stories. Odds are they will be back again in October. If not, before then, Lord willing, to tell you even more stories, but We need your help. Like we told you, Clay, one more time, where can they send in the videos?

Clay Baird: So you can, you can email us stories at ducks.org. Uh, I'm sorry, at du podcast at ducks.org. Uh, if you just want to write your story or you can tell your story, go to ducks.org slash podcast and look at the top of the page. Very top of the page is a button that you could press and it records for five minutes.

Matt Harrison: So please submit if you have any crazy stories because we would greatly appreciate it. We would love to tell your story here on the Ducks Limited podcast. Thank you all so much again for joining in to this episode. We thank y'all for taking the time to give it a listen and watch. We also want to thank our podcast producer, Mr. Chris Isaac. Y'all take care and God bless.